Paco Dècina: At some point in my research I left everything that was psychological and emotional... I dropped them to really give the Dance and the body a freer space.
Freer from all the certainties we build ourselves, the certainties of what is right, of what is not right, I would like to do this, I would not want to do this, that I feel, that I do not feel it... Always hold these body limits like the skin, always hold them solid and tightened around a known terrain.
For me in any job the attempt is to open, to push this skin ever further.
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The real substantive, basic work of the performer and me as a choreographer is related to the movement. So the flow of Life, always changing, always in transformation, in the sense that movement is not the space traveled but the space that is going through.
During and as the movement unfolds at every moment, it creates a new space. That's the movement, so it's not the memory of the space you've traveled.
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That what is in us, in our organization, that in the face of a judgment, a sensation is closed. Instead of opening we close. All this at the body, joint, muscular level. What causes all this? It is a voluntary movement, suddenly instead of abandoning itself, like water, to blend into a trajectory, a direction, a quality, a density of space, we decide instead to hold a line with the will and therefore a movement that becomes mechanical and no longer natural. This has really been the meaning of my work for the past few years.
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... This mirror must be clean, faithful to the person who has to be reflected in it and to do this it requires an opening I believe, one cannot go towards a "address" something that we have predefined.
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Giulia Salvagni: The body is actually nothing, it does not exist?
It does not exist as a separate object, but exists as Element at all. At all means that it is us with our totality, our emotions, our feelings, our thoughts, our fears, our desires, that we are inscribed and we move in a whole that is a society, no community of human beings, with nature, with plants, with Science, with video games, with Everything.
You understand the body for me is relationship it is not that it does not exist, it does not exist as an object separate from you, from it, from others, from the world.
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Giulia Salvagni: And for you is it possible to imagine a political body, if I say to you "is there a political body" if I say to you "the body is political" what do you answer?
I could answer you with many of the things I'm not going to answer here that I wouldn't say here. texte_02 We all do dance and there are lots of different dances... and I absolutely don't want to be...
In any case, of course the body is political, it is very clear in dance, there are many fascist dances, left-wing dances, free dances, not-free dances...
Giulia Salvagni: I don't ask you to name names...
I won't give names, but everything, everything is body. texte_02 The body is - in quotation marks - an invention, nothing but the result of collective memory, so where you are, what culture you belong to, in what political society you live ...
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Giulia Salvagni: What do you have to do with The Italian agents?
I don't really know them. I only met a few of them, but they were too short an experience to really talk about. Also because the role of agents in Italy is a problematic role, because in Italy there is very little diffusion for dance. There is not a lot of market whereas here in France, an agent has a real field, a real possibility of expression. Sometimes they are also dance programmers in theatres or they take care of different companies. They have a real material to explain their work. In Italy I have the impression that an agent is someone who sells the shows and places them. There is no room at all for a policy that could truly support artistic discourse.
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Understand that through Dance, in reality, we work something else. We work on the history of man, the conflicts between people, the things that bring us together, the things that keep us away, there is an idea. Through Dance you defend a certain way of being in the world. That's what's important to me
